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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:39 am Reply with quoteBack to top



This is quite a story that I have now. LOL!

To make a long story shorter: I was "picked up" on Facebook by - you guessed it - a very attractive man. I thought it was wierd right from the beginning because who on earth would fiend me just out of the blue like that? At this time I was not really aware of what romance scammers were. LOL! Well.... this guy said hello and that was it. I replied hello. Then the usuak how are yous..... the small talk, the nice to meet you's and ttyl's.
this goes on for a week or two -
he comes online on Facebook usually each day - my evening time. Then the questions he asks are things like: How is your family" as a greeting after the How Are you? OK - this is very odd - what American man really gives a hoot about my family that they know NOTHING about??? This guy was disguised as a missionary working in Nigeria btw. I thought that was kind of cool (not knowing about Nigerian scams as of yet), I asked a few questions about what he does in particular as a missionary and got replies like how important God is in our lives (I am a Christian so I didn't mind going there), and very vague answers to certain things like what church group he belonged to and such - if he answered at all.LOL! Also the words were not quite what an American man might write too. He also wanted to chat on Yahho now instead of on FB..... interesting...... This was getting fun now! hehehe. I decided to stick with it and deek this guy out!Very soon the I miss you thing started, soon followed bt I love you. hahaha - yeah ok buddy.... bring it on! soon after that I got a lame story on how one of his missionary buddies got hit by a truck and was in the hospital. Of course he didn't have any money and he needed to help this guy and his family out. HAHAHA!!!!! The game was on cuz there ain't NO WAY I was gonna send anything to a guy in Nigeria who I did not know and he knew nothing about me! He asked for help several times over a week o so. The that was it. I asked how his friend is doing and was he out of the hospital yet. He had to remember what I was talking about! LOL! Next up was..... he needed some help to pay his rent... geeeez! I had fun and offered to rob a bank - he took me seriously! Too funny!!!! Again - no help from me again! OH NO! Wink thing go along fairly nicely as I wait for what he might come up with next. I knew damn well for sure awhile ago that he was definitely NOT the guy he said he was in his Facebook profile, but decided to play along and get this guy....Very Happy. Well you know what????I told him exactly that and said to tell me who he really is, I was not interested in reporting him. He tried the guilt trip that I did not believe that he was the FB profile guy... we will call him `Larry`, that I didn`t love him cuz I didn`t trust him....and all that jazz. I told him to get real.....lol....so guess what :O He did!!!!!! He actually admitted he was not Larry and proceeded to give me his real name on Facebook so I could check him out. I figured he was still playing and expected to see yet another good-looking American guy. To my absolute amazemant - the profile was of a young Nigerian man! Oh my Lord!! LOL! I still had not known of Nigerian love scammers so I was pretty proud of myself to have deeked this guy ouy! He has a million pictures of himself, his fiends, family... etc. Not of his house or anything like that though. He said he was 26 yrs old and I wondered at this - ho ;ooked more like 20 to 22 at most. ( I am 50 years old and caucasian btw). I was not surprised at all. I have an awesome sence of humor too - so we chatted in a different way now, The I love yous were a bit strained because I really felt not entirely comfortable with a much younger man going on with this game like that. I got curious and googled facebook scams, and the info highway from there on got really interesting... LOTS of info out there - especially about the 419 scams - the money coming from an unknown relative that is there for me.... etc. Good ol`Phil Donahue had a few shows on the scammers that were eyeopeners - I was so saddened by how many vulnerable, lonely older women were out there who completely fell for this thing - AND sent hundred of thousand of dollars to their perceived loves. And other gifts as well. Anyways - my Nigerien friend - I will call him Sam... got an earful from me next time he asked me for money - for clothes. Yeah riiiiiiight - as if I was going to send money. Not a friggin`chance. I also sent him a few links to news documentaries on the subject as well. Needless to say we had a chat and it was actually pretty interesting to hear the real thing about why these young men do what they do. It is a very harsh dod-eat-dog world in Nigeria and people will do what they have to to put food on the table and such. There is a sucker born every minute and the business is VERY lucrative - these guys spend all day and night in internet cafes and such luring their victims in - usually a few at a time, and sometimes it takes months and even years to get what they want, They are very sweet talking and persistent! They payoff is huge - it leads to a fancy lifestyle for them - new clothes, jewelry and shoes (usually brand names like Ralphe Lauren, Versace. Rolex. Nike, Calvin Clein, etc) They party and smoke dope and have a great time if they are successful! It`s called a Hustle in their terms - and is flaunted quite publicly to friends and associates. I can certainly see the lure of it all and the appeal to the young men, and some women who are doing this, Nigeria does not have alot of future hope for their young people because of political issues and sheer population density and an uneven need and supply ratio. This is a 20 MILLION dollar a year industry now from what info I have found here and there. What a world we live in! Nigeria and Ghana are the hotspots for this business. The latest stuff I found out is that these guys sometimes work in teams – usually six in a team, This means that they all can disguise themselves as one person and take turns in order to work the sometimes dozens of victims that they have going all at the same time.
This is where I am currently at with Sam. I have yet to confront his with this last bit of information and am really curious as to what he has to say about that. Sometimes I wolder who I am talking to as he seems to be preoccupied and answers back with longer breaks in between. The subject matters differ as well. I figure there may be 3 or 4 in my friends team..... but there is one main one who I chat with and who really is the guy in the profile. We are chatting on BBM now and we get to do voice clips abd share pictures and such. He best frind is alot of fun to chat with also. I am enjoying his friendship and draw definite lines as to what is acceptable and what is not. Money is a taboo subject with me but sometimes he still tries to get away with asking me to buy him clothes and stuff. LOL! Die hard habit that hard to break! I am cautios as to what pics and info I share with him of course, and he still avoids certain things with me as well. I have taken it upon myself to find out more about Nigeria, it’s people and cuisine, and even the city where he lives. Very interesting! I have also learned some Yoruba and now the local slang called Pidgeon, much to Sam and his friends delight and entertainment when I so-called practice what I have learned with them! Its really funny! He seems to be a very passionate and cool young man. He is serious and persistant too. He is a good guy and it’s neat that he has come clean for the most part to me. I do not intend to report him or his hommie at all either. He is cute too – and has the smoothest Nigerian accent – lol! We have talked briefly on the phone a few times – it’s kind of neat to be able to do this relatively safely. I do have a few concerns, but do not feel that my safety is in jeopardy, and if I ever feel that way ca n and will take action, and I know where and how to do that. It will be a cool experience to see what lies ahead in the next few years if we stay friends. I have hopes for him and his friends that they will somehow get a chance to do something else other tham scammimg – which Sam assures me he quit ever since he has come clean to me. I don’t think so – lol.... it is a lifestyle for him right now and you just don’t quit just like that. I can’t imagine the stress that they feel having to be pushed to the point of having to do something as heartless as this. I do not know if they really feel anything for those who they successfully take to the cleaners, or if it is see as just a job. I do know that there can also be a ringleader in the teams that they have to answer to and there may be pressure on them to do what they have to. I wonder how long Sam can go on with me though, or if he will gradually fade away when he realizes that never ever, ever will he get money or gifts from me – ever. I will truly miss the friendship if that happens. I ask that we pray for the people of Nigeria that there be drastic changes fo the better so that crap like these scams will be banished forever, Have faith. 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 7:42 am Reply with quoteBack to top

He's a scammer and he lies for a living. Everything he told you in the past and is telling you now (and will tell you in the future) is a lie.

Cut off contact with him now, before he involves you in his crimes by recruiting you as a mule or similar.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SandOlay, welcome.

One very important reason why you should cut all contact with scammer in case of Facebook is, scammer look for other victims from your friends, friends of friends. Even if you hide your friends from profile, they can still see your friends by FB suggesting people he may knows.

In fact my fake profile friended to multiple baiters, and we all get friend request from same or different scammers, regardless of whether we show friends list or not. Well, for our fake identities, this is our trap to capture lads. However, This is an evidence how scammers find their victims from one to another. You should not let your real life friends into danger.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:11 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Yes I do agree that keeping him on Facebook is not a good thing for my friends - I didn``
t think about that stupid friends of friends thing. I get his friends on that people you may know too. LOL! I can assure you that I will never succumb to his scam crap though - I am very aware that he is a professional at what he does, and is very, very driven by need. It is truly so sad what some people have to do to survive as they see fit. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:19 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SandOlay wrote:
have to do


He doesn't have to scam - he chooses to, because he is too lazy to get a legitimate job.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:06 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I'll put that bluntly. He's a scammer. He lies for a living. He is not and he will never be your friend. The more entangled you get, the bigger the odds are he'll take some money from you or involve you in his crimes.
Drop contact with him right now or, at least, don't discuss it here. We like to sleep at night without thinking that we could have done more to stop you from becoming a victim.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:16 am Reply with quoteBack to top

yup - you are exactly right Tururut. I did just that because I know you are so right. Like I said before - I know he is a professional. It is not worth taking a chance of getting into trouble because of a stranger who started out as a lie. Lord knows that I have enough on my plate as it is! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:21 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

SandOlay wrote.

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There is a sucker born every minute

He is a good guy


I have been romanced scammed so I'm obviously a sucker along with a lot of other women.
I'm a strong independent woman, not lonely or vulnerable, but some of these scammers are very good at what they do and take advantage of peoples kindness, wanting to help somebody in an emergency.

I'm very happy that you didn't fall for it, I wouldn't wish it on anybody, it's probably one of the worse things that has ever happened to me.

As part of one of my baits, I checked out jobs in Lagos, and there were pages of them.

I may be a sucker, but he certainly isn't a "good guy"

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

TigerLily is right. He's not your friend or a cool young man. Your vocal clips and pics are probably being reused to scam other victims. If you had taken the time to read about the culture you would have realized that the "coming clean" script is just another angle to the scam. It happens all the time.

I'm glad you've cut off communications. Your real life information has been transmitted to a criminal-that's what these "cool" men are. When you were chatting and noticed gaps, he was chatting with other victims.

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This is a joke right?

SandOlay Wrote:

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I can’t imagine the stress that they feel having to be pushed to the point of having to do something as heartless as this.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:11 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We can not stress enough to you that these are not "good guys" who are forced to do this for a living. These are dangerous criminals. And this particular dangerous criminal has your real information.

You need to cut off all contact with him now. Block him on Facebook and walk away before you or someone you love is hurt. There is a reason we keep a level of anonymity even amongst each other on this site.

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My first one to see the light and tell me he was a scammer was William.
Lovely, William, so nice and too nice to be a scammer because he felt bad asking for money as this US soldier. He threw himself on my mercy and begged forgiveness. Wondering where this was going, he kept wanting to meet me (this is a fake FB profile I have of a 58 yr old woman). Will was 25 !!! Finally we got there. He wanted to meet me in Texas and pay for his airline ticket !!!

The second was John. Just the same. Never done it before... couldn't bear to ask for money etc etc..... he wasn't as clever as Will but he was 'thrown out of the home he was staying in'. His story, he was staying with a friend who threw him out because he was a very bad scammer and refused to do it again. He was homeless and needed money to get an apartment... $850 to begin with.

It's all scamming. Just some do it a different way. The outcome is always the same... they still love you and they will ask for money.

No one is forced to do it. They choose to do it. It is commonplace for them and they have no thoughts at all about the person they are scamming.

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I can’t imagine the stress that they feel having to be pushed to the point of having to do something as heartless as this.

I have been told before, it isn't stress, it isn't because they can't find work or do anything different. They do it because, as I was told it, 'people I know do it and they live big'. It's easy, it pays. Why work when people fill your pockets so easily. Please don't feel sorry for him and his mates. They are evil and heartless.

(As a little aside.... love Bunny May's new avatar)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:34 am Reply with quoteBack to top

What I dislike in this story...

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At this time I was not really aware of what romance scammers were. LOL!

Sad, but true, as most people online have absolutely no idea that romance scammers actually exist. They may be aware about the Nigerian letters and lottery scams, but not about romance scammers, pro-daters or other such variations of romance scams. The normal - and sad - way to find out about these types of scams is when you realize you are just in the middle of one. There is nothing funny about it! Perhaps visiting a site such as Scamwarners.com would show you how ‘less funny’ such criminals can be when they affect the lives of ordinary people merely looking for love or for a way to better themselves.

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got replies like how important God is in our lives (I am a Christian so I didn't mind going there)

You may be surprised to see how often the religious beliefs of the victim are used against the victim in scams. Most of the Christian sites (and in fact almost any site or group dedicated to religious related topics) are infested with scammers; all pretending to do the good work in the name of God.

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He asked for help several times over a week o so.

Common practice. As long as the scammer can talk with any potential victim he will never give up and he will try any angle to get money.

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I knew damn well for sure awhile ago that he was definitely NOT the guy he said he was in his Facebook profile, but decided to play along and get this guy....Very Happy. Well you know what????I told him exactly that and said to tell me who he really is

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I also sent him a few links to news documentaries on the subject as well.

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I have yet to confront his with this last bit of information and am really curious as to what he has to say about that


Educating any scammer is the wrong thing to do. Sure you may have fun while doing it but other victims that the scammer is attempting to defraud will undoubtedly pay the price for your bit of fun. He will change his email address with another one; dragging his victims along with him. Yes he may be reported, yet again, but it could be just after scamming another victim.
Last but not least, by sending links to the lad or confronting him you are just helping him to improve his ‘work’ and to become a better criminal.

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I was not interested in reporting him.

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I do not intend to report him or his hommie at all either

Many romance scam victims realize that they have been scammed after searching online - any email address, stolen picture or phone number used by a scammer, any email or fake document received from a scammer may save someone before it is too late. Or, if the victim is not so lucky, at least that victim can be aware of the fact he/she is scammed and can cut the contact, before ending broken or in jail. So yes, for all those reasons, reporting the scammer is important.

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it was actually pretty interesting to hear the real thing about why these young men do what they do. It is a very harsh dod-eat-dog world in Nigeria and people will do what they have to to put food on the table and such.

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Nigeria does not have alot of future hope for their young people because of political issues and sheer population density and an uneven need and supply ratio


Others have addressed the above already so I will reserve comment except to say that there are decent people throughout this world that do not need to resort to criminal activities such as scamming. No one is being forced to be a scammer – it is a decided by free will by those too lazy to get a real job; consequently destroying other people’s lives in the process.

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There is a sucker born every minute

It is easy to judge having absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Maybe this study will help you to get at least a general idea: https://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/media/people/monica-whitty/Whitty_romance_scam_report.pdf.

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I am cautios as to what pics and info I share with him

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I do have a few concerns, but do not feel that my safety is in jeopardy, and if I ever feel that way can and will take action, and I know where and how to do that.


Too late. You are using your real life FB profile, you are communicating with him - and all his buddies - using your real life email address and phone number. Be aware that even if you stop the contact, anything used with a scammer is compromised and may be used against you in one way or another. The best way to protect yourself, after cutting off all contact, is to change everything: your email address, your phone number, your FB.

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It will be a cool experience to see what lies ahead in the next few years if we stay friends. I have hopes for him and his friends that they will somehow get a chance to do something else other tham scammimg – which Sam assures me he quit ever since he has come clean to me. I don’t think so – lol.

This sounds like an online addiction in training to me. You appear to be aware of the fact that he is lying yet you are still there; talking every day with him and his friends despite of that. B8er is correct by telling you to cut any contact with this scammer as it will save you from any future troubles with him or his recovery scams.

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I can’t imagine the stress that they feel having to be pushed to the point of having to do something as heartless as this. I do not know if they really feel anything for those who they successfully take to the cleaners, or if it is see as just a job. I do know that there can also be a ringleader in the teams that they have to answer to and there may be pressure on them to do what they have to. I wonder how long Sam can go on with me though, or if he will gradually fade away when he realizes that never ever, ever will he get money or gifts from me – ever. I will truly miss the friendship if that happens.

SandOlay, the last part of your post shows just exactly how good these scammers are with their brainwashing techniques. Please tell me you don’t actually believe his stories and actually do feel sorry for him?

To cut the crap and clear the air:
- He feels no stress and he was not pushed in any way whatsoever to do what he is doing.
- He has no feelings at all for those he has scammed. For a scammer the victim is merely an ATM machine where with the correct button he can extract more money. If he is unsuccessful with one potential victim then he will simply move on and find another (and another). This will never stop as long as the scammer is breathing.
- Yes I do realize that you aren’t sending him money and/or gifts but at the same time while keeping in contact with him you are being used by him as he is testing his lies and is constantly learning how to better his game.

It is your right to decide if you want to believe a pathological liar who hurts people every day - no one can stop you. As a person knowing from own experience how a romance scam works and as a person dealing every day with the mess left behind by romance scammers in their victims lives, I would appreciate to see you showing more understanding and respect for the victims of the scammers instead of the scammers. Baiting is not all just fun - there is an ethical and a moral component behind everything we all are doing here. If you decide to have fun, at least try to do it right...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:08 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Firefly ..... first of all and very importantly - I am very concerned that what you got from my post is that I do not consider the feelings and destroyed lives of the victims, and rather support the scammers because I perceive that they are people too and we all have feelings about this subject of one sort or another. I can assure you absolutely wholeheartedly that I am definitely very, very compassionate towards the victims hurts, and not the scammers. Please believe me on this!!!
I respect all of your replies to my poast and thank you for your valueble input and support, and , of course, your encouragement to cut all contact with this scammer. I have aleady done that as I am finished with playing games just out of curiosity. I realize the dangers and have alot of other things to do with my life. I don't like wasting alot of time being online so this is even more encouragement to spend more time elsewhere - like with my tons of hobbies and . yucky paperwork that needs to be done - no more procrastinating or excuses - or diversions! Ha!
It's a difficult thing to let go what we get tricked into as being a friendship, let alone a love interest, with these people. It has been quite the experience, and I hope to be able to help those victims that got into this nasty scammer crap even deeper, as best I can.
One last word if I may.... in my original posting I had alot of LOLs - and they were all aimed at myself (laughing at myself) and in NO WAY shape or form were they ever intended to laugh at other victims.... never ever. I apologize very, very sincerely if I offended anyone. This was certainly NOT the intention!
This is a very informative site and I am so glad that I happened upon it. Keep up the good work administrators, and also to the many members who so bravely share their stories. Yours - SandOlay
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:20 am Reply with quoteBack to top

^^^ Are you willing to expose this scammer? To help other women avoid him and his friends.

Either way you should visit www.scamwarners.com Please check out the Romance Scam forum. I suggest you stick there until you have healed.

You can send your scammers information to a Moderator there if you do not wish to post it.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:44 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Sandolay, I think what many people are getting from your post are a couple things.

1. That you believe there is a level of respect and honesty at this point between you and whatever his name is.

And...

2. That in a strange way, there is some sort of friendship, even in a small way.

What you've described in your first post and most of your subsequent replies is what we have all seen again and again and again...

It's all by design on his part - all part of the script... All part of the plan - all part of the evil these people do to lull victims into a false sense of security.

To me, it almost seems as though you believe you've kind of caught him red handed and he's kind of thrown his hands in the air and said " yup, you got me..." Which is dangerous not only for you, bit for the handful of other people that this person is almost certainly either still scamming or lining up as his next victims.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 8:18 am Reply with quoteBack to top

hi Usermanetaken. Thank-you fro posting a reply to my post. Smile
I want to say that I know there is no respect for me on his part, and I know he is what he is. As much as I would like to think their is a friendship of sorts, I know that there really is not - it is the scammers job to make us think that. He/they follow the script to the tee..... so predictable! As for the red-handed thing - haha - he is all talk about that for sure. What a script they have eh?! Bunch of smoooooth talkers these folks - geeeez! ~ S ~
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:24 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Quote:
It's a difficult thing to let go what we get tricked into as being a friendship, let alone a love interest, with these people.


No shame in that. Please post his information on Scam Warners and help others avoid the same situation.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:29 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Sandy,

I'm glad you've posted again.

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As much as I would like to think their is a friendship of sorts, I know that there really is not


If you read DoomAngels posting and her threads here, you'd see that "confessions" and "excuses" are all part of the scripts. Just another method to extract money from victims.

At SW there are a number of posters who went through the same experience and thought they became "friends". Please don't beat yourself up-no one is immune from being scammed-it just takes the right scammer and topic.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:56 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Hi Sandy: I went through a very similar experience a year ago. Despite warnings I received from my family and friends, I kept in contact with him and finally after he scammed me I saw the light. He had me fooled for months, claiming he was a God-fearing man. I had even thought about trying to get him to stop scamming. He is a smooth-talking con artist. I am presuming he is still out there trying to scam other innocent people.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:45 am Reply with quoteBack to top

SandOlay wrote:
Nigeria does not have alot of future hope for their young people because of political issues and sheer population density and an uneven need and supply ratio.
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He seems to be a very passionate and cool young man. He is serious and persistant too. He is a good guy and it’s neat that he has come clean for the most part to me. I do not intend to report him or his hommie at all either. He is cute too – and has the smoothest Nigerian accent – lol! It will be a cool experience to see what lies ahead in the next few years if we stay friends.
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I have hopes for him and his friends that they will somehow get a chance to do something else other tham scammimg – which Sam assures me he quit ever since he has come clean to me. I don’t think so – lol.... it is a lifestyle for him right now and you just don’t quit just like that. I can’t imagine the stress that they feel having to be pushed to the point of having to do something as heartless as this.
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I will truly miss the friendship if that happens. I ask that we pray for the people of Nigeria that there be drastic changes fo the better so that crap like these scams will be banished forever, Have faith.


I had an interesting conversation once with a peer from Nigeria; when he talked about Nigeria, he was clearly not describing a horrible man-eats-man third world country but rather a very culturally-rich and diverse country that's 'coming up' and where people are very warm and friendly (for the most part). He was nevertheless complaining about the high levels of crime and the government corruption and the very slow response to crime on the authority's part. We also talked about the local king system... very interesting stuff.

All in all, I must disagree with you and say that I do have rather high hopes for Nigeria's future as long as Nigerians remain strongly against the mess and chaos that crime brings about. What I worry about is that those who are successful at scamming end up encouraging others to adopt their evil ways because it can look so easy to scam people who live at the other end of the world (there's no judicial consequences, and the victims are far away, so the scammer doesn't see the pain/anguish he inflicts on his victims), resulting in the long-run in a growing number of petty, uneducated, drugged-up scammers who are a nuisance to their society and who end up bringing Nigeria down... more corruption, more inefficacy in the system, less people working and bringing in much needed tax revenues to the country, more crime... the vicious cycle continues.

Either way, the Nigerian scammers are NOT the ones starving out on the streets... if they have enough $ to pay the guy at the Internet Cafe every day (or to afford a cell phone and laptop to scam their victims), and if they can read, write, and speak in decent enough English (aka they have a decent enough education), then they are certainly not that low... these are at least middle-class people in their society who could easily get a job if they tried. And we should not pity them like the romanticized 'Les Miserables'-like poor people who are starving to death and steal a loaf of bread out of desperation. This is simply not the case with these criminals.

If they were that low, they could beg for money on the internet... that's totally legit. But to con someone out of their money... 1,000's of $s (and who are they conning anyways? oftentimes it's the most vulnerable people of our society), it's just beyond low, gross, perverted. Evil or Very Mad

If you really want to help change these lads around, I think it's the 'tough love' type of love that they need. I.e., through ego-lowering scambaiters. These lads are full of themselves and think that they are so clever to fool others around... GRRR watch out! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:52 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Welcome, LadWarrior.

This is a rather old thread and the situation described has probably moved on or resolved itself - If you need to reference it please start a new thread and link back to this one, but don't dig up old threads as per our guidelines on thread "Necros". Locking to keep the place tidy.

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