Vivian My New Girl (Trying To Get This Right)

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Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Hello again! So I decided to try another go at this after I was called a "Very bad person" but my first Scammer love who dumped me. (yeah the tissues are just PILING up) Laughing

Meet Vivian my new Girl!

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Dear Beloved,

Thanks for your response to my email.
I know this email will not come to you as a surprise since this is my second mail to you, please bear with me. I really like to have a good relationship with you, and i believe that it is God who send you to me.

My name is Vivian Allen Gyalla the only daughter of late Dr. Allen Gyalla who died during the last crisis in my country Liberia, West Africa. He was the permanent secretary of ministry of finance Liberia and chairman cbl board but he was killed during the crisis in my country on the leadership of our former president, Charles Taylor who is currently on trial now after many innocent souls were killed, my father was unlucky to be among those that were killed by the rebel. When he was alive, he deposited the sum of $5.6M(Five Million Six Hundred Thousand United States Dollars) in the bank with my name as the next of kin.

My mother and l were brutally humiliated by our so called blood relations after my father's death when they were fighting to take over my father's properties and that led to my mothers death by heart attack then i managed to leave my country with my late fathers vital documents containing his death certificate and statement of his account to nearby country, Senegal where l am as a refugee.

Please My Beloved, I shall be delighted if you could assist me on the transfer of this money into your account and also help me to relocate to your country for my dear life.

Here in the refugee camp, some missionaries used to visit us and among them is Reverend Father Philip Modou of Christ The King Catholic Churches, he is so dear to me and I thank God for his life. Please you can call me through his phone number (+221 777 855 647) if you wish that we should talk on the phone,
if you wish that we should talk on the phone or you send him an email through his email address ([email protected]).

My dear, I am moved to contact you after going through your profile though it does not say everything about you so i would like you to tell me more about yourself, tell me your full name, address, occupation, and given me your phone number so that i can nominate you at the bank for the transfer of this money to your country so that i can join you.

Thanks and may God bless you.
Here is my pictures.
Yours sincerely,
Vivian.

Deciding that I TOTALLY hate this scam I have Roger try to cut out the Catholic priest (I am actually Catholic and this super pisses me off that a scammer would you religion to scam)

Roger writes:

Darling!

You are so pretty! That is sad about your family. Let me get to know you a bit before I get involved with your life affairs because that will make us stronger.

Also my dear I am not Catholic and hope that after knowing me you will think about changing your religion.

I am a business man in California, USA. I have two exs wives and 3 sons. I have on my 60s so I hope that is not too old for you. I travel a lot and so it is hard to meet one sweet woman to call my wife and love.

Tell me where do you live now? What is like?

I can' wait to hear from you!

Roger

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

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Hello My Dearest Beloved Darling,

I am very happy and pleased to read your mail today and how is your day? I hope all is fine with you? Well as for me there is nothing to write home about because of the situation of things over here with me suffering but beleiving and trusting in you that you will help me out of this place that I am suffering to join you over and regain my freedom once again than staying here suffering, please I have heard all that you said and we will know each other more and more soon because I am so pleased that you replied me back, dear I will like to know your religion so that I will know if I will change my own to your own because as a woman I have no religion of my own yet but right now I am a Catholic in christainity, dear where is this your sons? Are they with you or they are staying on their own? there is no problem with your age because I know that age is a number and what matters allot is true love that exist between the two of us, so age means nothing to me, all that I need is someone that I can proudly call my own peron on this planet earth, the person that will feel my heart and bring back my happiness to me, your age is not too old for me what matters is true love that will exist between us, honey I want you to know that you have come to an end of the travelling and what you are looking for I will personally serve you the way that you will like it and want it, a true wife and a true love to you because you deserved it my love, is a promise that I am making to you, from the deepness of my heart, I live in camp in Dakar Senegal as a refugee because of the civil war that was fought in my country that lead me to seek for asylum in this place, after losting my entire family and relatives, I managed to escape with the help of the united nations officials that save my life, please my heart, try and help me out of this place that I am suffering and I promise that I will be with you forever and ever till the rest of my life, please I am suffering here that I am now without no good foods to eat and not to talk of good wears to wear, this place is like prison yard, please you are my only hope right now, I have been praying since years now to find someone that will help me out of here and luckly you came and I can not wait to see you in person, please don't forget about what I told you in my last mail to you, so that after the transferred the money to you, I will leave here and join you over and we will leave together and build a happy home that your ex wife's didn't build for you, I promised that I will do it for you, so that we will be happy and share things together as one under one roof my darling, have a nice day and a happy Sunday my darling, with loads of love and a million sweet kisses,

yours forever in heart,
Vivian Roger.

Wow because she is a woman she has no religion of her own. All I can say to that is wow. Rolling Eyes

But I like he took the bait. I also like the personal info put in. So a little time wasted. This dude might be more fun then Sharon (first lad love)

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Roger is getting sick of sending money to all these chicks at camps who can't buy a sheep for their tampons. He also is sick with doom and gloom chicks. You see, he has been hurt before and to these scammers he is an awesome mark. (my mentor VampireMerchant told me to read the real stories to help me get better and I think it is helping me understand a lot more of how these things happen, so sad)

Darling Vivian,

Happy Sunday, I hope you are well. Today I am going to church. I am glad that you would think about another religion. That means we can continue to talk.

I met online another person in your situation. She was very boring and did not try to show me her heart. Right from the start she just wanted money. When I gave her some money she stopped talking to me. Also her sad stories all the time were not fun and it made it annoying to even read her emails.

I hope you are not like that. She did not even take some time to know me and let me know her. I wont judge you on her but I will say that I want to date a happy person who wants to get to know me. Then if you love me I can help you and you can come to the USA if you want.

I just don't want to date or email someone who is sad all the time or the only thing they want me for is my bank account. I need to get to know someone first as I was hurt before.

Darling, only one son lives with me. The other two are in college. They are smart bright boys. I would love to have more children.

So tell me about yourself. What is your favorite food? Your favorite movie? Would you want to live in the USA?

I have a nice home here. I have two ex wives. They do not come around very much. I have a pool, hot tub, and gym for you to use should you show me that you are the one I am looking for.

I await your reply darling,

Roger Etall

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Note as always I would love any help or ideas. You guys are so freakin good at this and I want to get better. Reading those stories from real people broke my heart.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:56 pm

Hi SoConfused-a Dakar Darling is unfortunately one of the laziest variety of scammers known-no forms, safaris etc. But piggies, yes! You can go one of two ways-either straight love bait, but no cash except by bank transfer. Doubtlessly she'll have a Rev. or a barrister. Or go the route of helping with the transfer of her millions to the US. You can score some pretty funny fake passports and photoshopped IDs.

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:59 pm

Looks to me as if you are doing great...... clapping

BTW I do keep an eye on what my mentees are up to.... Wink

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Capone wrote:

Hi SoConfused-a Dakar Darling is unfortunately one of the laziest variety of scammers known-no forms, safaris etc. But piggies, yes! You can go one of two ways-either straight love bait, but no cash except by bank transfer. Doubtlessly she'll have a Rev. or a barrister. Or go the route of helping with the transfer of her millions to the US. You can score some pretty funny fake passports and photoshopped IDs.

Aww. I am so sad that I might have a lazy one. The first one was SO LAZY. I should be glad because precious few will fall for it. The pictures he sent me weren't even all the same girl!

Wasting a scammers time and piggies are good enough for me. Safari's are for when I get my training wheels off and have more time. It is so tough not spending all my time doing this. So fun.

-I would angle to do a church of TWAT thing if I could though. Hilarious

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BTW I do keep an eye on what my mentees are up to.... Wink

Yikes! I better make your proud! I want to be the best mentee ever! (yes I was teachers pet in school Razz

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:09 pm

SoConfuse Wrote:

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Wasting a scammers time and piggies are good enough for me.

You know I'm starting to like you (even if you were a Teacher's Pet). I have a feeling you will make your Mentor proud.

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 11 Jan 2014 Posts: 688

Loving this! Keep up the brilliant work!

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Thanks everyone!

I tried to sign up for fishmeetfish but for some reason they are taking forever to OK my picture so I can be contacted. Any other places to meet lovely lads?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:32 pm

They're having to OK your pics?? That's odd. I've never had that happen there before.

Also, if you want some tips for dealing with the Senegal lads take a look at this thread. There are also some more lads there to choose from. I started it because these lads usually follow a predictable pattern.

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=242702&highlight=senegalese

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

^^^ You are so right! Thanks that link gave me insight!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:55 pm

There is an older thread, a mass bait run by TheDane called Doom Comes To Dakar that is instructive. We also have a baiter, Big Al who specializes in running 4-5 of these at a time. Very predictable scripts and no way to get a form.
Check this out:http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=216338&highlight=doom+dakar

Master of Master Baiters Joined: 11 Jan 2014 Posts: 688

SoConfuse wrote:

Thanks everyone!

I tried to sign up for fishmeetfish but for some reason they are taking forever to OK my picture so I can be contacted. Any other places to meet lovely lads?

I made a mistake and tried to sign up for a site with a very similar name, same thing.

This is the correct one. CLICKY[/url]

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:18 am

I just resigned up my transgender. Didn't have a problem except the pics are awaiting approval by a moderator. Great. I wonder if my reporting Willy boy had anything to do with that?

419Eater is my life Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 295

^^^ I wonder if the mods over at FMF are finally clueing in that the site is pretty much ladville

@soconfuse If you want a dating site lad, pm me and I'll gladly share. It would just be a matter of you sending them an email saying thanks for the reply, tell me about yourself. They blast out so many emails that they'd be none the wiser.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:48 am

Or mosey on over to scamwarners as a lot of the FMF lads are posted over there, email addys and all. I just posted a few myself.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:49 am

SoConfuse, I am loving your baits and I know your mentor should be nothing but proud of you! Don't worry too much about trophies and safaris, those really are few and far between. Just concentrate on wasting lads time and getting piggies and if the situation comes along to get a trophy or safari, then you can steer your bait in that direction. Safaris don't happen unless you have a lad so hooked and have developed a deep relationship with them. Not saying it's not possible, just don't set out to do one, just waste their time, money and resources so they don't have it to use on real victims.

For them using religion is very common. NV does a great job by telling them to leave their god out of their emails and he doesn't believe in fairy tales. They use God and Christianity all the time to gain trust, because a Christian won't lie, right? I follow NV's lead and cut that out of the bait immediately.

Since this one is wanting to convert to Catholicism, you can de-educate him so if he tries it on a real victim, they'll clue in he's a fake. You can have a lot of fun with this one, and might be able to get a trophy out of him. Laughing

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Well it looks like my new girl wrote me back. I haven't even read it yet but thought would post and then check back if anyone has good ideas on how to move forward. I am working with my boss for the next two days so I am slammed. Sad

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Hello My Dearest Beloved Roger Etall,

It is my pleasure to write to you this hour of the day and how is your day? I hope all is fine with you? Well as for me there is nothiong to write home about because of the situation of things over here with me suffering, please I have heard all that you said and I want to let you know that I am ok, just that things over here is not easy at all but beleiving and trusting in you that you will help me out of here that I am to join you over and regain my freedom once again, please I am counting on you for help because you are my last hope on this planet earth, I will like you to know that every body is not the same, since you met another person online before me, you will not use it and justify me, I am not the type, I am born and brought up in a decent home, if not for the death of my parents I wouldn't have beeing here, but that is nature for you, please I don't need any money from you but what I need from you is just your help so that I will leave here and join you over in your home and know your family members and your sons too and take them like my own family too.

Honey how can I be like that girl that did that to you, honey I will like to know you the more and know more about your family as well, sweet heart I am always happy despite what I am passing through here that I am, honey I want to let you know that I love you from the deepness of my heart and I can not mention the love that I have for you on mails alone but I will like to show it to you physically when I join you over in USA and share our sweet love together as one, Please I am tired of this place and I want to join you over and regain my freedom once again, than staying here suffering, I am praying for you and my self on daily basis and beleiving that you will lead me out of here that I am now,

Honey I can not be sad to you, why should I be sad to you, for what? Honey I don't have anything to do with your bank account but all that I need from you is your happiness all the time, honey I am here for you and what ever you want to know from me I am ready to tell you about it and I want to assure you that I will not hurt you for what so ever reason, sweet heart I am happy to hear that you sons are bright and smart boys, honey I am have the same feelmings withy you to have more childrens too, my favorite foods are fried rice and chiken and vegeterian foods, preparing African dishes, when I come over to you I will learn your own partaken kind of meals, my favorite movies are washing Action films like American films like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Chuck Norris, yes, honey I will like to live in USA with you and your family, I am happy for this question and I can not wait this to happened in my life, I am also happy that you have tow ex wife and I they don't come around alway, and that you have a nice home which I can jnot wait to be in with you and your sons and we leave together and build a happy home together, sweet heart I want you to know that I am the right person that you are looking for and I am can not wait to see you in person as soon as possible ok, have a nice day and waiting to hear from you soonest,

yours forever in heart,
Vivian.

I DID catch that she/he is a fan of Chuck Norris...

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:04 pm

Capone Wrote:

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Very predictable scripts and no way to get a form.

Although I generally agree with the predictable part I have had some success at getting the Ladettes to fill out an Alien Fiance form. My general modality for getting them filled out is to wait until after I get the first bank account and on the same day I ask for a second account I send the AF form to the Ladette telling them I contacted my Lawyer and found out there will be huge delays if they don't fill out the form right away. I assure them that I said nothing about the money to my Lawyer. With any luck the Barrister will send a second bank account and maybe you'll get the form but usually their too lazy to fill them out. When they give excuses for not filling out the form I go back to the Barrister and tell them that my love isn't serious about coming to the USA to be with me because she can't even fill out 3 pieces of paper and return them to me. There is no reason to send the money if my wife is so inept. I also tell the Ladette that she should ask to use the Camp printer because the sooner she leaves the camp the less burden there will be on the reverend.

Usually, after some arm twisting like that I'll get the form or dropped. But at least I got two piggy's if nothing else to show for my efforts.

Are the three pages I send them. I don't fill in any of my information. Most of the time they fill in the wrong portion of the form or both sides of the form.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:45 pm

^^^^^

"Is your fiancé related to you?" Great forms Big Al

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:55 pm

^^^ Actually, they are the real documents to file with the US government in order to get an Alien Fiance. These are probably out of date as they update them every year. I've only had one Ladette call me on it and I just went to the gov website and got the new ones.

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:05 pm

They're real? WOW! Only in the US... Laughing

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Ahh back from work and just popped open a nice cold beer...

Thanks for all the comments and ideas!

I would LOVE to get this dude to fill out a form. I would also love if he used paragraphs. The wall of text is such a turn off for me.

I don't even know what to write to keep this going. I just want to reach into the computer and punch this scammer in his face. Or kick him like Chuck Norris...

I am going to finish this beer, move on to some red wine all the while reading all your baits and steal all of your good ideas haha Cool

Not quite a Newb Joined: 19 Jan 2014 Posts: 76

Darling,

I have been hit with a crisis at work and reply to your email as soon as I get a chance.

Kisses,

Roger

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Hello My Dearest Beloved Roger Etall,

Sweet heart I have heard all that you said that you have been hit by work crisis and that you will reply me as soon as you get chance, that's ok, I will be waiting for your mail as soon as you are free my darling because you are all that I feel so much in my heart and soul and I can not wait to see you in person and share thing in common with you as one under one roof and also take good proper care of you, have a nice day and waiting to hear from you soonest,

Darling Vivian,

You are such a sweet woman to email me such words. You really are something that seems too good to be true!

Work is crazy. We have a deal that may have busted so we are working to fix the issue. This is an important deal and if we can fix it we will be very happy.

How are you dear? Darling do you have friends to spend time with? How come you are not dating a nice young man where you are? You are so pretty I am sure you have them begging!

xoxox,

Roger

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