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Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:17 am

This guy contacted me on Tagged by the end of November last year, and since then we have exchanged almost 200 mails. Sadly there is not anything funny in there that would be worth to post it here; it was just pure and pristine love, accompanied by pathetic lyrics and greasy love songs.
The guy mails as [email protected], and he is really very patient and convincing. He told me he was planning a sailing trip from New York to Australia, while "our" 14 year old daughter Jenny traveled to Aruba, where she had a car accident and was hospitalized. 2200 $ are needed for surgery..... *yawn
It took some time.....but there we go:

Lloyd James
An Ich
Jan 13 um 5:27 PM
Hello honey,
we have been experiencing some network problems here.
Honey,anytime am traveling like this,i normally freeze my account because of hackers,i lost some money before through that.Honey,i want you to send him 1,500USD,so that he can add it up with what he have at the moment. I just got a message from him now on how you can send the money.He said through western union and Below is the details

Name: naazlee
Surname: ismail
Test Question:
Whats my favorite color

Test Answer: white

Thanks so much honey for your care and i so much appreciate.love you so much.
Your Man,
Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
Jan 13 um 10:45 PM
Hello Lloyd, my love!

Sorry for my late reply, but I got home late, and then I read your mail and did some research.
I have never before heard of this Western Union thing, and after picking up all the availalable information I have to tell you that I am NOT going to use it, by no means ever.
The transactions are monitored by CIA and NSA, they have lost a big lawsuit in the USA (there was a verdict on the ground of money laundering), and there are countless cases of lawsuits against fraudster staff at Western Union.
Listen, Lloyd, it is not going to work this way. I don't want to get into any kind of federal radar, that might jeopardize my immigration to the USA and our marriage.
Besides, I don't understand why you have to involve this guy at all. Who is he?

I mean, I could wire the whole amount to the hospital, and you wouldn't have to borrow that idiot's 700 $. That's the better plan, in my eyes.

If, for whatever reasons he needs to be involved, then I will need his account information, because I will transfer the money orderly, through my bank.

Can you let me have the tour guide's mail address? Do you have any contact details from that bush hospital?

Please get back to me as soon as you can, because I am worried!
And I have to say that it is simply IRRESPONSIBLE of you as a father to let Jenny travel to a third world country and then freeze your account because you're sailing. Are you out of your mind?
I am really angry about you!

Julie

Lloyd James
An Ich
14 Jan um 1:59 AM

Hello honey,the content of your last mail was well understood and i have been so depressed,sad and down ever since jenny's new;s got to me.I cant just believe that all this is happening to me,honey its not a time to pour blames,am not a perfect man and i didnt expected this at all.Please lets get Jenny treated before all this ok.Naazlee is an old known friend and a sincere personality.please just do what you have to,ok.If you can assist with the full money honey,it will be more better for us not to burg him with our problems,ok..Below is the account he sent.

ACCOUNT NAME: MUHAU MOKOENA
ACCOUNT NUMBER:2065077786
BANK NAME: Ned Bank
BANDK ADDRESS: Perm Building,20D Pretoria Street,Pretoria,Gauteng,0002 branch.Pretoria street.
SWIFT CODE: NEDSZAJJ
BRANCH CODE:164645

love from your man,
Lloyd James...

I assume he will be even more depressed once Dr. Alan will practise his medicine... and welcome to the stable, Piggy No.6 Smile

Ich
An Lloyd James
14 Jan um 6:15 AM

Good morning Darling,

thank you very much for getting me that account information, I will use it immediately to get things done. [b] ==> said and done, no lie!
Please try to collect yourself, you need to eat, and please drink! You don't know what your doing to yourself, being on that vessel in the heat of the Mediterranean Sea.... this is highly dangerous!
The last thing on earth our sweet darling daughter Jenny needs is a father who collapses aboard his ship. Please bear in mind that you're also responsible for your crew!
Enough of that money talk now, it will take a while, like all transatlantic transactions, but it will all be good.
Why didn't you answer my questions about Jenny?
Can I have the tour guide's mail address?
Do you have any contact details of that hospital?
Did you hear from Jenny or the guide, or maybe even from the hospital?

I love you so much!
Hugs and kisses
Julie
[/b]

Baiting Guru Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Posts: 5373

Great job keeping him occupied!
I love how you got him to cough up a bank account.

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:58 am

It was truly helpful to read NV's threads, he is so good at squeezing accounts out of his ladies Cool

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21155

That takes a great bit of patience to get 200 mails before he hits you for the money. That is the kind of person that needs to be taken down. That is the kind of person that ruins another emotionally and financially.

Congratulations on another piggy!

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:41 am

That's a true achievement :you kept him away from real victims .

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:38 pm

He is really a dangerous guy.... playing it slow and very patiently. I can well imagine that women might fall for him, and I must confess that there were certain moments when even I had my doubts about him being a scammer, but the header analysis always revealed his truly ugly scammer face Smile

I truly despise him for what he does, and I will try to milk him for some more account info.
I guess today he must have been busy setting up email accounts to answer my urgent questions about "our" sweet little daughter Jenny......

Lloyd James
An Ich
14 Jan um 2:35 PM
Hello honey,

Honey,i had a slight headache but after some hours of sleeping,i can feel a little bit relieved.I must tell you that i cant even think and am not settled.Thanks for your support and prayers sweetie and i am happy that you gave me a shoulder to lean on.Please,how are you doing now and let me know when you will departing to Australia,ok.Love you sweetie

Honey,here are the mails you requested for.
TS_Tour guide.
[email protected]
[email protected]

Hospital contact.
[email protected]

Loads of love from your husband,
Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
14 Jan um 11:36 PM
Good evening Lloyd,

oh Darling.... is it not enough that I have to worry about our daughter Jenny?
Now please, don't you start to trouble me, too! That could be growing over my head!
Jenny needs our strength and presence, so please concentrate and focus on your management skills.
You are a manager and a leader, aren't you?
Then please MANAGE and LEAD, and stop your pathetic whining, or instead of a shoulder to lean on you will learn how it feels when my high heels hit your butt.

Have you heard anything from the hospital or from Jenny herself?
Have you tried to contact them?
Is it known who has caused the accident? There must be somebody who is responsible, and it is anybody but Jenny!

I will leave for Australia on 20 January, I have sent you my schedule, haven't I?
I don't have the itinerary here with me know, but as far as I remember, I will have 2 stops, on in Dubai, and another one in Kuala Lumpur.

Please inform me as soon as there are some news!
I will try to find out the phone number of that bush clinic, maybe I can reach them and gather some information.

The money has been sent.....I don't know how long it will take, but I told my bank that it is an urgent emergency.

I love you, Lloyd!

Yours forever
Julie

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:25 am

Any time you can waste time and get bank accounts it truly is a victory. I love wasting their time, as it really does help keep them away from real victims. It is the involvement of the relationship that gets the victims. Keep up the good work! I love watching your threads.
Shout out to NV for me too for inspiration to keep working for the bank accounts.

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:24 am

I really hate it when these bastards pretend that there's someone in need of medical treatment or surgery, and it can't be done until the payment has arrived, so the person has to suffer. This is ever so disgusting!

Lloyd James
An Ich
15 Jan um 6:10 AM
Honey thanks allot for your care and concern.I got a message from the doctor and they said they have evaluated her pain so that they can make a proper diagnosis.And there are some other related injuries but its been controlled with acetaminophen medication..
soon as my plane takes off in 5 days.

Honey,the doctor also said the ankle is unstable,so it will be treated surgically and they will use metal plate and screws to hold the bones in place.Honey,the info i gathered about the accident was that the driver lost control after his brake failed and they plunged into a rock..

Honey,i would need you to send me the payment slip,so that i will also send it to my friend for confirmation,ok..

love you my heart and i cant wait to hug you with a passionate kiss..love you more

Your Husband,
Lloyd James

An Lloyd James
15 Jan um 8:23 AM

Good morning Lloyd,

oh my, that is all so terrible!
Lloyd, what you should do next is contact the driver and/or the employer, because he caused the accident, and as it was a commercial tour, they are legally responsible, and their insurance company will have to settle the hospital bill or reimburse you, better me in this case because I have payed the money.
Lloyd, Honey.... I'm horribly busy these days. The Real Estate Agent will come by this afternoon because I want to put my little villa on the market, I still need to get my vaccinations for the trip to Australia, and there's tons of other things to do that are really time consuming, so I will not be able to write to every address you have sent me.
So I expect you to get busy and nail them all down with mails, first in line should be the driver. And please copy me in every time, so that I know what is going on. You should have the time, because you're at sea, and just put someone else of your numerous crew in command of the boat. That allows you to fully concentrate on our daughter.

What does it mean, the ankle will be surgically treated? Are you saying that it has not been done yet? Please sort that out urgently with the hospital, and don't forget to copy me in!
Is it possible to reach the hospital by phone? If so, it can't be a big deal to talk to Jenny herself.
Please let me have the phone number!
As a proof that is doing all right, let the tour guide drive to the hospital and take a picture of her, I want to see her with my own eyes, in that hospital bed! And don't give the guy a chance to talk himself out... he has caused all the trouble, so that's what he owes you least. Please send the picture as soon as possible, best would be today!

Baby, German banks do not issue transfer slips, I don't even know what that is. What happens is that after I order them to proceed a transfer, the money is deducted from my account, and it only shows on my bank statement which reveals the amount and the recipient's account info, and that is it. I do not even see my statements, because I am self-employed, and all bank statements are sent to my tax consultant. I don't see what I can do, you will have to wait until your friend will let you know the money has arrived.

And I still do not quite understand why this person needs to be involved at all; is there a particular reason the money has to go through Pretoria before the hospital bill is settled? I could have done that myself, so why in all good heavens does the cash have to take such a detour? Who is that guy?
I am really concerned about the whole situation!

Love and kisses, Julie

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:08 am

Lloyd James
An Ich
15 Jan um 10:00 AM
Hello honey,

I understand that you are going through some stress,sorry sweetie,okay. I must tell you that jenny is unconscious ,i just got the info now and if we have to wait for the drivers insurance company or what so ever to be reponsible for everything,i am afraid that i will have to put Jenny life in danger and pains,all i want is a better treatment and after she gets well? we can file for all that.

I will instruct them to send a pic of hers on the sick bed. Honey,i involved my friend because he was the only one i could count on at first and he has been a good friend to me for several years,he is like a brother to me,as it is now? i want him to travel down to the island to handle all the issues regarding our child until we come to meet them.I do not want to stress you more because you have your engagements too.At the moment i want her to be transfered to the States because i want her to be well taken cared of.I dont have faith in that hospital anymore,i want her to be trasnsfered to a better facility in the united states

Honey,there is no transfer made without evidence,my friend needs it,to present to the bank when the money reflects and that will be an evidence that we also sent the money.I dont want a situation of many stories,ok. I dont know why German banking system would be doing transfer with out issuing slips ,honey you are in position to demand for that and even online banking gives that too.I guess you filled in the bank details in a form and they would have given you your own copy.

I don't want to gamble with our daughter's life,i want everything to get well with her before i can start the investigation that lead to the accident.We can not solve our problems with the same level of thinking that created them,i have made the mistake for letting her go already,we wont concentrate on the fault now but for me to be responsible.Just know try and be in my shoes,i am more like a mad man here because if it where possible for to fly off this vessel? i would have done that by now..

Your Man,
Lloyd James

What an @sshole! Any suggestions on how to go from here? I'm so angry at him that I better remain silent for the next 3 or 4 hours, or else I would possibly screw up the whole bait Smile

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:31 am

They always ask me for a bank slip to be scanned and I tell them the same thing- it goes electronically. Just keep pushing back. They don't like the time it takes and how it's not instant like WU or Moneygram.
I regularly yell out loud at my chat lads while staying sweet on chat. They usually back off if you insist the money is coming. Accuse him of not trusting you if you want to relieve some anger. If he really believes the money is coming, unleash your inner Goat and enjoy!

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:34 am

According to some experiences I read regarding to real victim came to aware of the scam at this stage and doubt the lad and not paying money, then the lad will say you are cold hearted person etc. etc. and will not feel so good with the lad's dirty words.

Can Julia excape with her urgent and critical issues such as she caught flu or accident, or called by police because CIA or something detected the interaction with lad and suspect as money laundry ... etc.

Maybe more experienced folks knows better though...

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:05 pm

kaede wrote:

According to some experiences I read regarding to real victim came to aware of the scam at this stage and doubt the lad and not paying money, then the lad will say you are cold hearted person etc. etc. and will not feel so good with the lad's dirty words.

Can Julia excape with her urgent and critical issues such as she caught flu or accident, or called by police because CIA or something detected the interaction with lad and suspect as money laundry ... etc.

Maybe more experienced folks knows better though...

Hmmmmm, not a bad idea at all... that will gain some crucial time.
I had to think about the whole thing, and there might be a mule involved.
My guy's IP tells me GHANA, and the account is in Pretoria/SA.... so I bring in another character and let him know Julie is grounded for a while, unable to communicate Smile

Mod report on mule has been done Smile

An [email protected]
15 Jan um 1:08 PM

To whom it may concern

I am writing this note on behalf of my dear friend Julia Linke-Zecke.
I have to let you know that Julia was brought into hospital this morning and had to undergo emergency surgery, suffering from a liver rupture as the consequence of an accident while she was cleaning the windows and fell down the ladder.
She won't be released before 5 February and will get in touch with you again as soon as she will be able to.
I was only asked to forward this message, I will NOT take care of any of her businesses.

Thank you very much for your understanding.

Louisa

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21155

Quote:

I dont know why German banking system would be doing transfer with out issuing slips ,honey you are in position to demand for that and even online banking gives that too.I guess you filled in the bank details in a form and they would have given you your own copy.

This isn't Africa. Other banks in the world are coming to realize that it is not needed for anyone to receive one. Does he think Africans make first world banking policy?

Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:31 pm

next victim wrote:

Quote:

I dont know why German banking system would be doing transfer with out issuing slips ,honey you are in position to demand for that and even online banking gives that too.I guess you filled in the bank details in a form and they would have given you your own copy.

This isn't Africa. Other banks in the world are coming to realize that it is not needed for anyone to receive one. Does he think Africans make first world banking policy?

That's at least the feeling I get...they all seem to be crazy for "THE SLIP".
Maybe 419 eater should bring out a lad-dedicated SLIP-collection....sizes from double-zero up to double-infinite, made of sheer cotton... ha ha ha Smile

Baiting Guru Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 21155

Maybe they will hire Derrick to model it for them! That slip is not only to make them get off their butts to actually check the account but when they use a mule they want to prove it is for them, not another scumbag. Some of them have even been known to call the bank when slips were provided.

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:31 am

His reaction

Lloyd James

Jan 15 um 9:42 PM
Hello Louisa, I am so dumped folded and It Hurts,That Is All I Can Say About It…Nothing hurts worse than watching the one we love gets terribly ill.I think am having the worst month ever but what i know is that at the end of the tunnel there is always a bright light.Please keep me posted about her health,i have really gone through allot this month.Louisa, am currently on a sailing trip and am gonna look for a means to duck this ship in any safe island,to come and face all this temptations by my self,i know it will make me loose my job and face some legal issues too but i dont think i have a choice.I want you to make sure she gets a good treatment and be well again.I would love to know the closes airport to you and your cell phone number,so that if am able to abandon my post,i will fly down to meet her and my sick daughter too. I just hope i can survive this.I am no longer thinking well ,i might do something stupid.Please Louisa,just pray for us all always
I didn't understand anything about the link you sent..

Best Regards Louisa,
Lloyd James

An Lloyd James
Jan 15 um 11:14 PM

Dear Mr. James,

there is nothing new to report.
She has survived, and that is all I can say. The doctors refuse to give me any detailed information because I am not next of kin.
I couldn't see her this afternoon, she was moved back to ICU.
I will see what tomorrow brings.

Sincerely
Louisa

Lloyd James
16 Jan um 12:06 AM

Oh,Thank God and i have been so worried.Please can i have the doctor's mail,so that he can tell me the status of her health.Who took her to the hospital and who is the next of kin? i am so worried here,having allot of problems on my head..Louisa,i must thank you for letting me know whats happening.I am kinda weak and depressed a little,i love her so much and i want her to get well soon.In your free time,we can talk on cam,ok.
Please take good care of my woman for me,ok.

Lloyd James

I think I will let her die....maybe he even turns to Louisa instantly and tries his luck on her Smile

16 Jan um 7:30 AM
Good morning Mr. James,

I have just called the hospital.
There is bad news. I have to tell you that Julie did not make it. She passed away around 3.30 am this morning. As far as I understood, it was due to internal bleedings they could not get under control.The doctor told me she didn't suffer at all because it happened while she was in emergency surgery again.
I am so sorry for you, I don't know what to say.
She had no next of kin, so the funeral will be taken care of by the City administration.

Sincerely
Louisa

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:34 pm

Lloyd James
An Ich
15 Jan um 12:06 AM
Oh,Thank God and i have been so worried.Please can i have the doctor's mail,so that he can tell me the status of her health.Who took her to the hospital and who is the next of kin? i am so worried here,having allot of problems on my head..Louisa,i must thank you for letting me know whats happening.I am kinda weak and depressed a little,i love her so much and i want her to get well soon.In your free time,we can talk on cam,ok.Please take good care of my woman for me,ok.
Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 7:30 AM
Good morning Mr. James,

I have just called the hospital.
There is bad news. I have to tell you that Julie did not make it. She passed away around 3.30 am this morning. As far as I understood, it was due to internal bleedings they could not get under control.The doctor told me she didn't suffer at all because it happened while she was in emergency surgery again.
I am so sorry for you, I don't know what to say.
She had no next of kin, so the funeral will be taken care of by the City administration.

Sincerely
Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 10:21 AM
Hello Julie,
' Do you have to lie to this extent just to get away from me? very funny...I have always knew that you are not a sincere woman.First i asked you about your address and phone number several times but you ignored it.hahahaha,so funny right? I think you should be so bold enough to always express your self,ok..You are alive and dont just lie with death because you want to get away from a relationship.I know that the so called Louisa doesn't exist.I pray for you to change,have a great life with good health,prosperity and joy.I knew you would came up with such lies and you just created the Louisa mail to really get away.To you? you are very smart,isnt it? please dont pronounce your self dead because of me,ok...Thanks for your time and i wish you the best in life.

Loads of love to you Julia AKA Louisa.
Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 10:39 AM
Dear Mr. James,

I have no idea what you are talking about, and I do no think that you have the right to insult me.
I only did what I was asked to do, I forwarded the information.
I do not know you, and I do not care at all what you think.

Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 11:40 AM

I never insulted you,ok but just telling you what you know better.Can we have a video call via yahoo messenger? why do you have to send me such infos?

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 12:56 PM
Dear Mr. James,

it was on Julie's computer, a message to you saved as a draft, but yet unsent. I thought it was in her interest to send it, probably I better should not have done that.
And please note that you did indeed insult me.
Why would I want to video chat with you? I don't know you, and I clearly don want to get to know you. There is absolutely no use for people like you in my life.

Good bye.
Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 1:23 PM
Thanks allot Louisa,
Please Julia lend me some money and i want details so that i can pay it back,ok...if possible through bank transfer or western union.I dont want to hold a dead persons money,ok..Thanks for you concern.

Lloyd James

An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 1:51 PM
Dear Sir, can you please explain why you address me as :
Julia, can you lend me some money?
This is a disgrace, you should be ashamed!
Can you please explain?
Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 2:01 PM
I didnt ask you for money,i was simply telling you that your late friend lend me some money and i want to pay it back.Please always read carefully,ok

Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 2:08 PM
Dear Mr James,

I am sorry I misunderstood you.
Sadly I cannot help you in that matter, You will have to turn to the German Inheritance Court.
As far as I know, Julie didn't have any next of kin, so her whole heritage will go to the state. That includes loans and credits, so the only thing I can recommend is to turn yourself in and report to the authorities in charge. I don't know who that is, you have to find out for yourself.
Sooner or later they will find out anyway, because as off tomorrow they will sign and seal her property and search the whole place.

Sorry I cannot be of any further assistance.

Regards
Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 2:13 PM
I dont have any interest in her properties..You can let me have any means i can contact the German authority,so that i can make the payment to them.Thanks allot.

Lloyd James

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 2:31 PM
Dear Mr James,

don't bother, they will invade her house and turn everything upside down, including her computer.
I don't have any idea who to turn to, and walking in your shoes,hone stly, I don't even want to.

I have no more time to change mails with you, I wish you all the best for your future.

Regards
Louisa

Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 2:52 PM
FUCK YOU JULIA....
Lloyd James
An Ich
16 Jan um 2:57 PM
(MOUNTAIN GOAT)

Ich
An Lloyd James
16 Jan um 3:01 PM
Yeah, fuck you, too Smile

But I guess I have the better fuck Smile

some of them seem to google Wink

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:49 pm

Awe too bad for it being the end. He doesn't have your personal information does he?

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:27 pm

No, of course not Smile

and as he might be reading this, he might notice that I am more than happy that this communication is over and out, because he's really nothing but an evil piece of shit Smile

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:35 pm

Ah, okay, I was confused with the (MOUNTAIN GOAT), I thought he found your fb page. Razz

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:24 am

Oh you might be surprised and he might come back. i have no idea what is up with them suddenly insisting on video chat. i love how they say they want us to prove we're real. I usually let those ones go, knowing there's another fool right around the corner, just waiting for love and slapping.
I'm kinda surprised he didn't use the "til death do us part" bit I hear so often.

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:58 am

I tell them the make and model of my laptop and that I purchased it in 2008 and doesn't have a video cam on it. I use a pay as you go phone that has a camera, but no way to email it to myself and I don't have the cable to download on my laptop. I also say that I am not one of those narcissists who has to take their own picture 30 times a day and save them. I just explain that I am really technology stupid and don't understand blogs, social merdia charting, twatters and the like. I ONLY tried online dating because I wanted to meet someone who has the same likes and values as I do... blah blah blah. That usually gets them backed off. If they can't accept that, then perhaps THEY aren't the type of person I want to be with, and another gentlemen understand this, so I guess good luck and goodbye. Very Happy

(I got the "GOODBYE" idea from NV)

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:04 am

Oh yes, there are lots of excuses. My cell phone is only for work, so I can't call or text you. I don't have a video camera. I don't do that. I won't do that. No, I never send nude pictures over the internet (but I do send them in a box Very Happy

).

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:46 am

Mountain Goat wrote:

That's at least the feeling I get...they all seem to be crazy for "THE SLIP".
Maybe 419 eater should bring out a lad-dedicated SLIP-collection....sizes from double-zero up to double-infinite, made of sheer cotton... ha ha ha Smile

That tool is available. Read about it tomorrow in our Mass Bait here:

http://forum.419eater.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=242455