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Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

Is anyone in correspondance with any of these women, or know who they are in real life?!

Thanks

She goes by the name of Nina and I have Tineye'd all her pictures and nothing come back and have googled her email address and nothing.

THis is Tanya and the same goes for her No Tineye and google results from her email.

Reason I ask is these are women i suspect as scammers but want to be sure before i start baiting.

Many Thanks.

Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 3:19 pm

I have seen these photos before I think but that isnt to say these particular girls are scammers, just start a convo slowly with them and you'll soon see if they are heading in the direction of you know what. If you aren't comfortable feel free to PM me their e-mail addy, and where you found them, I will find out reasonably quickly.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:29 am

My the 2nd one's a big girl, she'll never bang her nose walking through a door. I think you where a bit naughty with the 3rd picture. Photobucket don't like Tit's and Arse shots

As for ''Are they Scammers" as you haven't said where they came from it's hard to say. If there Russians, the scammers not the photo's then theres a good chance the "headers " will show The Bat mass mailer .
You could also try running her e-mail through Google, or some of her script sentences.
You could of cause post the headers [remove your details first] and some script, Then some of the experts will be able to analise it for you.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:59 am

Sorry, not found in some scammer´s blacklists...

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

Yes the 2nd one is a big girl! There was no t1ts or arse in the picture, so why photobucket took offense i dont know?! But anyway, the I recieved an email from Oleg informing me that , well i will post the email below

Quote:

Hello Mr. XXXXXX,

Tanya is a client of our firm. She uses our firm's service of
translation and Internet services. She doesn't English language and
she hasn't a computer. She wants to continue your communication very
much. But unfortunately, she can't reply to your letter because her
account is over. If you're interested in the girl, we can send you
information about our service and payment, which is rather small.
Tanya likes your communication and she would to continue your
communication with great pleasure.

Sincerely Yours,
Manager of TF "Mercury"
Oleg Borisenko.

I did respond to Oleg with the following

Quote:

Please forward my email to Tanya and ask her to email me personally in Russian and I will translate myself. I know many people who are Russian speakers who will be able to translate for me.

Many Thanks,

I havent heard anything and I think I was being a bit cocky with my Russian friend thing, so I may have to write angin to my new friend Oleg. I am right in thinking that Oleg is part of the scam?!

As for Nina, I will try and feed the experts the headers. I will have to look up in the stickys how to do this!!!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

OK, so here is the sticky for Tanya and Oleg!

Quote:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.220.96.5 with SMTP id f5cs42379vcn;
Wed, 6 May 2009 04:48:26 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.204.58.16 with SMTP id e16mr1149184bkh.43.1241610505297;
Wed, 06 May 2009 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from mx75.mail.ru (mx75.mail.ru [94.100.176.90])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 25si7822615bwz.58.2009.05.06.04.48.24;
Wed, 06 May 2009 04:48:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 94.100.176.90 as permitted sender) client-ip=94.100.176.90;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 94.100.176.90 as permitted sender) [email protected]
Received: from [94.158.32.131] (port=2298 helo=senator.vpn.lds.local)
by mx75.mail.ru with asmtp
id 1M1fbl-000NAQ-00
for [email protected]; Wed, 06 May 2009 15:48:17 +0400
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:43:06 +0300
From: tanyaslada77 <[email protected]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.03) Professional
Organization:mail.ru
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]>
Subject: TF "Mercury"
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Spam: Not detected
X-Mras: Ok

Seems The Bat is being used! Now I just need to try and become friends with Oleg...anyone ever baited the translator or is it a downward slope?

And here is Nina'a headers...

Quote:

Delivered-To: [email protected]
Received: by 10.220.45.80 with SMTP id d16cs17463vcf;
Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:32:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.204.65.65 with SMTP id h1mr6629153bki.26.1240327953874;
Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email protected]>
Received: from forwards5.yandex.ru (forwards5.yandex.ru [77.88.61.37])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 21si6162227fxm.105.2009.04.21.08.32.32;
Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:32:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 77.88.61.37 as permitted sender) client-ip=77.88.61.37;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 77.88.61.37 as permitted sender) [email protected]
Received: from smtp19.yandex.ru (smtp19.yandex.ru [77.88.61.35])
by forwards5.yandex.ru (Yandex) with ESMTP id 65BB0AFAEA
for <[email protected]>; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:32:31 +0400 (MSD)
Received: from [213.151.1.176] ([213.151.1.176]:29683 "EHLO COMPUTER61"
smtp-auth: "kalinich5" TLS-CIPHER: <none> TLS-PEER-CN1: <none>)
by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S3096849AbZDUPc2 (ORCPT
<rfc822;[email protected]>);
Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:32:28 +0400
X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at smtp19.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: kalinich5
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:38:06 +0300
From: "[email protected] " <[email protected]>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.60.07) Professional
Reply-To: "[email protected] " <[email protected]>
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]>
Subject: nina
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="----------CD6D183CB5BBFF"

So the fact that they are using The Bat! means that they are scammers?

Elite Baiter Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 1043

Pretty much. The bat is a tool that lets them mass mail thousands of scripts to people. There would be no reason for a real person to be using it.

If you are ever worried about people not being scammers, then just straight bait them for a while. In a love scam, that's real easy. Just get to know them, blah blah blah. Act like someone you really wouldn't want to date, if they stick around it's probably a scam. If they ask for money it's definitely a scam.

If by sheer random chance you actually end up speaking with a real person, let them down gently. Otherwise - in my opinion - you're doing almst as much harm as a real lad.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:24 pm

Vlads no doubt, both of them

Translation scammers are baitable, you need to work for bank accounts here, tell them you will pay but cant do WU, cant do MG but can do bank transfer right away

The chances of actually getting a bank account like this is low perhaps a 1 in ten chance bit in my book well worth the odds

Now, is "The Bat" evidence alone that its a scam?
well, actually no, not really, but it is a bloody good indication, the bat makes mass mailing very easy, legitimate company use such programs to handle large volumes of emails so while is proves only that this person is set up for large volumes of emails, you need to ask yourself why a legitimate person would need this.

You have done the right thing to check and ask but I have no doubt at all so please do carry on Wink

Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:27 pm

The less buoyant one is lifted from http://www.poringa.net/posts/imagenes/830839/para-ustds-la-vuelta-de-ADRI-!!-(megapost).html (very NSFW pics of her there).

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 5:00 am

branston1975 wrote:

...anyone ever baited the translator or is it a downward slope?

I've never been lucky, with them, Normally you get a price list, of whats available. and that's it.
Anything you send the girl, doesn't get delivered with out a fee being paid.
They will tell you you the girl broken hearted [as she/he would be] But without a translation fee, nothing can be done.
Then it's up to you to pay up or shut up Confused

And it's always WU, no banks allowed, only rich people have banks, the rest of us make do with WU Crying or Very sad

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

So i now know confidently that both are scammer and are ripping off pictures from minor pornstar "Sweet Adri" (less bouyant one) and centrefold model Denise Milani "most bouyant one"!

So on with the baiting!

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

So after a reminder email to Oleg to ask about what my lovely bouyant Tanya has been going and telling him how much i want to carry on with our correspondance, I finally recieved a email back this morning, and as expected nothing mor ethan a price list.

So in two minds, I sent him this

Quote:

Oleg,
Many thanks for you letter. I am of course glad that Tanya is coming into your office asking about me and my letters. You did not confirm that you have told Tanya about me wanting to carry on on your correspondance! Please do so. I need to be able to know I can trust you and that you are passing on my messages to Tanya.
Oleg, I see you as a type of cupid, providing a service that two lovers can unit as one.
I do have some questions that i hope you will be able to answer.
The money that I will be transferring, I would much prefer to send via a bank transfer. This is a far more reliable and secur wway of tranfering money i am sure you agree. So please send me you companies bank details so that I am able to set up a monthly payment to your company.
Do you have any references that you would be able to send me that I can read from satisfied customers of yours. It is always great to see that the service you are promising me will be to the required standard that I will be paying for.
I am confused as to why you require the money in US Dollars. I presume that you are based in Russia so I qould request an explanation as to why you do not require the funds in Roubles?
Does your company have a website that I might be able to look at for reference?
What is the telephone number of your company so that I may be able to discuss in greater detail some of the issue and proposals I may have for you.
I am a little concerned that you are scanning my beautiful Tanyas pictures. So of the pictures that she has already sent me have been of the adult nature and I would like some sort of promise from you that you will not be using them for personal use, when you get a little lonely etc. Tanya informed me that she has lots of pictures and I want to know thaat some of her more rebealing pictures are for my eyes only.
Please also explain your company to me. Who many other couples are you currently providing this service to and who many translators do you employ.
Please may you describe to me in great detail the job histories of your employees. Are they transalators that have only just graduated university or are they seasoned professionals with years of quality experience?
When you describe "unlimited" letters, who many is unlimited? I would presume that Tanya will be sitting down with one of your translators dictating the letter to you. This would I would expect be a minimum of a letter a day. However I would like more than a letter a day. It would be even better if we could manage a time when we could use a messaging software to have a conversation with each other, that way we could even employ a webcam so that I will be able to see both Tanya and yourself Oleg.
Oleg, please also tell me about yourself. Are you married, how long have you been a translator. Do you enjoy your job?
I would be pleased if you could answer my questions as thoroughly as possible.
Now Oleg, I would like to discuss something man to man. As you realise I am single and I would like to know how many other ladies you have on your books? Are there any other beautiful women you may be able to pass my way. I of course would reward you handsomely for sending me the best looking women and there pictures so that I may be able cherry pic which ones are the best. Oleg, money isnt a issue with me. I am a successful banker in the City of London and some of the prices you are quoting are a drop in the ocean to me. I know that you store many of the pretty girls pictures for your private use and must have a limitless supply. I would love to be able to choose the best looking girls for me to correspond with, and that way I would be able to choose the best looking ones.
I hope Oleg that you are fine with my suggestions and I look forward to hearing back from you.

My thinking is I can waste his time getting him to hopefully answer all my questions, and then thinking that I am writing to Vlad Oleg, I thought I would test out is dishonest side and see if the $$$ signs might have him join my little female filter system!

Anyway, we will see. I'll keep u informed

Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 3:23 pm

odds are the bait will be dead in a week

good news is that anything after that should be viewed as a bonus Wink

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 3:54 am

No. 1 is a scammer, or rather a picture a scammer uses.

went by the name Nina when I was in contact last year.
Got him/her to WU only once though!

tc

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:27 am

As mentioned sweet adri is the first one and is a porn chick and has her own site. Typically used by the Russians out of Mari El. Baited persons using her pics a couple of times.

The second is used primarily by Ukrainian translation scammers. Short and sweet. Denise Milani also has her own website. Plenty of airbag photos but all covered.

All NSFW

Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 5:32 am

It goes without saying that your beloved girl friend and the translation service are of cause one of the same Confused

The Russians are hard enough without a 3rd party wanting a bit of the Pie. it's a lot quicker to move on, once a translation fee, comes into the equation. Wink

So lets assume you pay the translation fee, Hypothetically speaking of cause, for say a 3 month period, It's no guarantee the Dolly, will still be there. after requests for money for travel, flowers, Visa's, new socks, etc. So it then amounts to a scam on a scam. In short your paying someone, to write to you in an attempt to extract even more money. And as they know you have only paid for 3 months translation time, Then they know how long they have to rip you off further.

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 19

So after sending Oleg a reminder about missing Tanya and how I am very keen on carrying ono our correspondance, Oleg very kindly replied with a little attachment to remind me how much the bouyant Tanya is keen to carry on your correspondance!!!

I think I will now bow out gleefully! I can;t imagine I will get any further with Oleg or Tanya.

Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:05 pm

I just cant imagine why on earth you wouldn't believe her Laughing

Lads really do think westerners are so dumb they will fall for it, they hold us with so little regard Rolling Eyes

Just a note for anybody new to baiting, we never point out floors in the documents or pictures, w like having them think how good their photchopping skills are and hope they pass of the same crap to their victims

Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 5:12 am

I doubt you will get a reply from the translation company. Unfortunately they don't work like that, They supply a price list for services, and it's up to you, to pay up or shut up. There not interested in having a conversation about there services..

The picture was a simple reminder that Dolly's still there and waiting for her translation fee's. It's a wonder they don't send out a picture of her standing in line at a soap Wink

kitchen. poor girl, all alone without her boy friend, Crying or Very sad

Hello I'm New here! Joined: 30 Jan 2014 Posts: 1

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